{"id":1564,"date":"2014-09-21T00:29:59","date_gmt":"2014-09-21T00:29:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/?p=1564"},"modified":"2020-08-19T10:20:10","modified_gmt":"2020-08-19T10:20:10","slug":"socrates-e-o-daemon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/socrates-e-o-daemon\/","title":{"rendered":"Fedro de Plat\u00e3o: o misterioso daemon de S\u00f3crates e o amor plat\u00f4nico"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>V\u00e1rios\u00a0tipos de relacionamentos amorosos s\u00e3o descritos por S\u00f3crates na obra<\/strong> <strong>Fedro, de Plat\u00e3o<\/strong>. Desde aquele em que um companheiro impede a evolu\u00e7\u00e3o do outro (para que dependa dele), passando pelo relacionamento pautado pelo sexo at\u00e9 a uni\u00e3o saud\u00e1vel, quando os companheiros evoluem juntos.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u00c9 tamb\u00e9m uma das obras onde S\u00f3crates fala sobre o misterioso <em>daemon<\/em><\/strong> e a perturba\u00e7\u00e3o que ele causa quando alerta o fil\u00f3sofo. O <em>daemon<\/em> surge em v\u00e1rias obras de Plat\u00e3o, mas em Fedro surge a ideia do <strong>mensageiro dos deuses<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\">O <em>daemon<\/em> de S\u00f3crates nas obras de Plat\u00e3o<\/h2>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3929\" src=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/socrates-charles-bonnet-daemon.jpg\" alt=\"socrates e o daemon\" width=\"600\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/socrates-charles-bonnet-daemon.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/socrates-charles-bonnet-daemon-300x130.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Na obra <strong>Fedro<\/strong>, em seu primeiro discurso, S\u00f3crates despreza o del\u00edrio do amor, dado por <em>Eros<\/em> aos amantes, e recebe uma advert\u00eancia do <em>daemon<\/em>, <em><strong>a voz interior que alerta o fil\u00f3sofo sobre\u00a0aquilo que n\u00e3o deve ser feito<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Assustado, S\u00f3crates faz um segundo discurso afirmando que os grandes feitos dos homens foram realizados por aqueles possu\u00eddos pelo amor. <strong>A tradu\u00e7\u00e3o literal &#8220;dem\u00f4nio&#8221; n\u00e3o tem conota\u00e7\u00e3o negativa, conforme ocorre ap\u00f3s o cristianismo, sendo entendido pelos gregos antigos como mensageiro dos deuses<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Isto fica claro quando S\u00f3crates, assustado, diz que o <em>daemon<\/em> lhe advertiu: seu primeiro discurso ofendeu <em>Eros.\u00a0<\/em><strong>S\u00f3crates decide ent\u00e3o fazer outro discurso de expia\u00e7\u00e3o, pois <em>&#8220;tinha medo de Eros&#8221;<\/em><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O <em>daemon<\/em>\u00a0surge n\u00e3o apenas em Fedro, mas em outras obras de Plat\u00e3o. Na obra <strong>O Banquete<\/strong>, S\u00f3crates fica parado no meio da rua, sem nada falar, e algu\u00e9m diz que isso seria comum quando ele ouve a voz do <em>daemon<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Na obra <strong>Apologia de S\u00f3crates<\/strong> o fil\u00f3sofo diz que j\u00e1 sabia de sua condena\u00e7\u00e3o, pois <strong>quando caminhava para seu julgamento, o <em>daemon<\/em> se calou. S\u00f3crates entendeu que sua miss\u00e3o chegara ao fim<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O <em>daemon<\/em> tanto pode ser um recurso liter\u00e1rio de Plat\u00e3o quanto <strong>um simbolismo para as intui\u00e7\u00f5es<\/strong> <strong>que normalmente abafamos e desprezamos, mas que S\u00f3crates prestava muita aten\u00e7\u00e3o. <\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Fedro e o amor plat\u00f4nico<\/h2>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3927\" src=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/amor-platonico.jpg\" alt=\"amor plat\u00f4nico\" width=\"600\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/amor-platonico.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/amor-platonico-300x149.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">N\u00e3o apenas os relacionamentos amorosos, mas tamb\u00e9m o surgimento da ideia do <a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/2014\/07\/17\/trecho-da-obra-fedro-de-platao\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">amor plat\u00f4nico<\/a> surge em Fedro, quando o amor d\u00e1 asas somente \u00e0 alma do fil\u00f3sofo, conforme exposto neste trecho:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>O fil\u00f3sofo \u00e9 tomado do seguinte del\u00edrio: quando algu\u00e9m neste mundo v\u00ea a beleza e recorda-se da beleza verdadeira, recebe asas e deseja voar; n\u00e3o podendo, por\u00e9m, volta seu olhar para o c\u00e9u esquecendo os neg\u00f3cios terrenos e dando desse modo a entender que est\u00e1 delirante. De todos os del\u00edrios, esse \u00e9 o melhor e da mais pura origem, saud\u00e1vel para quem o possui e dele participa. Quem delira assim, ama o que \u00e9 belo e chama-se amante.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>O amor plat\u00f4nico est\u00e1 ligado \u00e0 <a href=\"https:\/\/pt.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Teoria_das_ideias\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Teoria das Ideias<\/strong><\/a> de Plat\u00e3o. O fil\u00f3sofo \u00e9 aquele que recorda a beleza verdadeira que sua alma vivenciou antes de decair neste mundo. Por isso, n\u00e3o se importa mais com as atividades mundanas, preferindo admirar essas recorda\u00e7\u00f5es. S\u00f3crates era um exemplo desse comportamento.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Fedro \u00e9 considerado um resumo da filosofia de Plat\u00e3o, pois apresenta v\u00e1rios elementos fundamentais de seu pensamento em um pequeno e rico di\u00e1logo.<\/p>\n<p>Autor: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/quem-sou\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alfredo Carneiro<\/a> \/\/ Editor do <a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">netmundi.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Refer\u00eancias Bibliogr\u00e1ficas<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Plat\u00e3o. <strong>Apologia de S\u00f3crates<\/strong>. Rio de Janeiro: Edi\u00e7\u00f5es de Ouro, 1970.<\/li>\n<li>Plat\u00e3o. <strong>Fedro<\/strong>. S\u00e3o Paulo: Martin Claret, 2007<\/li>\n<li>Plat\u00e3o. <strong>O Banquete<\/strong>. Rio de Janeiro: Edi\u00e7\u00f5es de Ouro, 1975<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><strong>Sugest\u00f5es de Leitura<br \/><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"title\" href=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/2017\/platao-5-livros-para-baixar\/\">Plat\u00e3o | 6 livros para baixar (PDF)<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/2014\/06\/12\/o-julgamento-de-socrates\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">O Julgamento de S\u00f3crates<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/2014\/09\/01\/links-filosoficos-mito-da-caverna-e-apologia-de-socrates\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Plat\u00e3o: Metaf\u00edsica, Mito da Caverna e Apologia de S\u00f3crates<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2014\/09\/19\/a-metafisica-em-platao-e-aristoteles\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">A Metaf\u00edsica em Plat\u00e3o e Arist\u00f3teles<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/pensamentos\/category\/socrates\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Frases de S\u00f3crates<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2018\/atlantida-cidade-misteriosa-platao\/\">Atl\u00e2ntida \u2013 a cidade lend\u00e1ria descrita por Plat\u00e3o<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2018\/a-filosofia-antiga\/\">A Filosofia Antiga: o maior legado da Gr\u00e9cia<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2018\/platao-biografia-filosofia-obras-frases\/\">Plat\u00e3o \u2013 Biografia, filosofia, obras e frases<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2018\/aristoteles-biografia-filosofia-obras-e-frases\/\">Arist\u00f3teles \u2013 Biografia, filosofia, obras e frases<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2018\/sofistas-socrates-virada-antropologica\/\">Os sofistas e S\u00f3crates \u2013 a virada antropol\u00f3gica<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2018\/gorgias-de-leontinos-o-pai-da-retorica\/\">G\u00f3rgias de Leontinos \u2013 o pai da ret\u00f3rica<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2017\/diogenes-de-sinope-os-filosofos-caes\/\">Di\u00f3genes de Sinope \u2013 os fil\u00f3sofos como c\u00e3es<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2017\/socrates-um-resumo-biografico\/\">S\u00f3crates \u2013 resumo biogr\u00e1fico<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2017\/platao-etica-do-belo-e-do-bom\/\">Plat\u00e3o \u2013 a \u00e9tica do Belo e do Bom<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/2017\/o-milagre-grego-nascimento-da-filosofia\/\">O milagre grego e o nascimento da Filosofia<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Navegue pelo netmundi.org<\/h3>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\" \/>\n<ol>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">P\u00e1gina Principal<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/category\/livros-para-baixar\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Livros para Baixar<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/category\/musicas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">M\u00fasicas cl\u00e1ssicas para ouvir e baixar<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/category\/textos-motivacionais\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Textos motivacionais<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/home\/category\/falacias\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lista das fal\u00e1cias mais utilizadas<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/category\/filosofia-antiga-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Filosofia Antiga<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/category\/filosofia-medieval-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Filosofia Medieval<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/category\/filosofia-moderna-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Filosofia Moderna<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/filosofia\/category\/filosofia-contemporanea\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Filosofia Contempor\u00e2nea<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.netmundi.org\/pensamentos\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Frases de grandes fil\u00f3sofos<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>V\u00e1rios\u00a0tipos de relacionamentos amorosos s\u00e3o descritos por S\u00f3crates na obra Fedro, de Plat\u00e3o. Desde aquele em que um companheiro impede a evolu\u00e7\u00e3o do outro (para que dependa dele), passando pelo relacionamento pautado pelo sexo at\u00e9 a uni\u00e3o saud\u00e1vel, quando os companheiros evoluem juntos. \u00c9 tamb\u00e9m uma das obras onde S\u00f3crates fala sobre o misterioso daemon e a perturba\u00e7\u00e3o que ele causa quando alerta o fil\u00f3sofo. O daemon surge em v\u00e1rias obras de Plat\u00e3o, mas em Fedro surge a ideia do mensageiro dos deuses. O daemon de S\u00f3crates nas obras de Plat\u00e3o Na obra Fedro, em seu primeiro discurso, S\u00f3crates despreza o del\u00edrio do amor, dado por Eros aos amantes, e recebe uma advert\u00eancia do daemon, a voz interior que alerta o fil\u00f3sofo sobre\u00a0aquilo que n\u00e3o deve ser feito. Assustado, S\u00f3crates faz um segundo discurso afirmando que os grandes feitos dos homens foram realizados por aqueles possu\u00eddos pelo amor. A tradu\u00e7\u00e3o literal &#8220;dem\u00f4nio&#8221; n\u00e3o tem conota\u00e7\u00e3o negativa, conforme ocorre ap\u00f3s o cristianismo, sendo entendido pelos gregos antigos como mensageiro dos deuses. Isto fica claro quando S\u00f3crates, assustado, diz que o daemon lhe advertiu: seu primeiro discurso ofendeu Eros.\u00a0S\u00f3crates decide ent\u00e3o fazer outro discurso de expia\u00e7\u00e3o, pois &#8220;tinha medo de Eros&#8221;. 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